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Stephen Gilpin's avatar

Creativity is by its nature prophetic, bringing in foreign material from a place outside of SpaceTime and giving it expression. In this age with all its distractions, gizmos and shortcuts, creativity is really being aggressively attacked, and people are surrendering whether they realize it or not. It's the craftsmen that are brought forth to terrorize the horns that scattered Israel (Zech 1:18-21). Speaking as an artist, it's surely warfare. So much resistance to communicate what we're given to express.

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Jack Baumgartner's avatar

I appreciate you referencing the passage from Zechariah, Stephen- it is so incredible! It might be as close to a penultimate scripture towards that point. And at the same moment given then rebuilding context of Zechariah, I feel those craftsmen/ metal-smiths hearken back to Bezalel- filled with the Holy Spirit.

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Alias Harlequin's avatar

Loved the thoughts around 'defending the dwelling place of God in us' as spiritual warfare - took me back to the panels of St Anthony

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Jack Baumgartner's avatar

Oh Paul and Anthony defend that place wonderfully and mightily! And then yield forth more creativity a’la Bosch and Gruenwald and the bevy of Northern printmakers menageries of embattled Anthony.

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Seth Wieck's avatar

Thanks, Nathan. I've been thinking about those panels lately as well. The podcast keeps moving on to new topics, but I find myself trying to remember some of those older conversations. I don't think I've fully processed them yet.

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Alias Harlequin's avatar

Put me in mind of: Unseen Warfarehttps://g.co/kgs/jqHJaJi

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Alias Harlequin's avatar

Thanks be to the man-with-dirt-on-his-head and the one-who-stands-on-its-head & their witnesses, and the one in whom all is 🙏🏼

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Kim Morski's avatar

Such a wonderful conversation, much needed for me. I grew up in the charismatic movement with so much emphasis in art as prophecy, warfare, Bezalel, etc. In short, this conversation is helping me reconnect with those themes, but with a better interpretation - if that makes sense. Thanks, all of you!

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Sam Kee's avatar

I come from. Reformed, Calvinist background, but I don’t feel restricted to the extreme of it; I am quite open to these conversations and think that whatever we ‘tend’ toward, that it is good for us to explore the opposite direction.

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Kim Morski's avatar

Oh I agree! My husband has a reformed background, and his parents converted to Orthodoxy. I never could have imagined how God would use their influence to change me and make me more open to God’s mystery.

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